Bill.,heres a prime example of a division in the ranks--i truly beleive that jack herer has been a major plus for our side--decriminalization-relegalizing.,.,jack just had a speech that he was openly pissed off at the money grubbers--
and right afterwards had a stroke--
please dont tell me he should be shot like a dog--that hurts.,i have very few people in this life that i love.,and one of them is
Jack Herer
and im hoping that hes okay--out of the pain zone anyways--theres too much of that around-
Thats Why I smoke weed~~to ease the pain.,my friends

Down with the taxman--the power to tax is the power to DESTROY

Free ourselves

<i hope no one ever writes about you the way you wrote about Jack .... your post will stay on tribe for years to come >

You know what? Nobody will ever have occasion to write about me the way that I wrote about Herer. I never screwed anybody over like that. I am glad that my words will be on Tribe for years to come. I stand by every word. I hope that people will read these words and not make the same mistakes that I made.

Hindsight is always 20/20. When I met Herer at the first Midatlantic Green Party Conference in Philadelphia, I should have asked why a guy from Oregon was participating in an East Coast Event. I should have asked myself the same question when I saw him in Baltimore and in Chicago the same year. Today it is obvious that he and his buddy Beal had a two part agenda. The first was to make sure the Green Party supported their business interests. The other was to make sure that the Green Party never seriously challenged the neocons.

What happened to the Lean, Mean Political Machine we used to have? What happened to the populist movement that kicked Nixon out of office? Why wasn't Nancy Reagan silenced in a roar of outrage?

<who reallly pays the tax ? >

The question is what will happen if we do not pay the tax. The DEA is not going to go away because the DEA is self funding. The DEA was given the ability to continue without federal taxes because the black market is an essential part of the Neocon World Order. Since we the people are not paying for the DEA, the DEA can do anything it wants to do.

For that matter, have you stopped to think of the consequences of not having the taxman? Yes, our taxes pay for some things that we disapprove of, but our taxes pay for things that we need, like roads, public transportation, public education, public works, national parks, and a dozen other things that we call the infrastructure. Have you ever stopped to think of what would happen to us if the infrastructure went to the private sector? The first thing that would happen is that we would become slaves. Ever read Steinbeck and the Grapes of Wrath? Ever read Sinclair's The Jungle? You want to go back to the days when the corporations did not have to conform to government regulations? You want to go back to living in company housing and being constantly in debt to the company store? If this is what you want, then you are doing it right. It takes money to regulate the corporations so that they have to treat workers like they are human beings. It takes money to assure that we have weekends to enjoy.

It takes money to educate the public. Resistance to the Vietnam war came from an educated population. Kill education and you also kill the peace movement. Opposition to the present wars is nothing compared to the opposition to Vietnam. Students with educations want better than the military. Students with the present levels of education have nothing left but the military. The federal government is not the problem. We are the problem. We have abandoned what works and have returned to a states rights model that no longer works. We can change all sorts of laws on the state level, and the feds can just ignore it. That is constitutional. Read the actual constitution and not just the Federalist Papers. The labor movement did not listen to Calvin Coolidge when Coolidge told them that labor was a state issue. They kept up the pressure on the fed and won. The civil rights movement did not listen to Eisenhower when he told them that minority rights were a state issue. MLK kept up the pressure on the federal level, and won. However, you are not going to tell me that Malcolm X and "by any means necessary" did not have anything to do with it.

In 1979, legalization was a dead issue. It was not a question of if, it was a question of when. In 1981, Nancy Reagan began screaming just say no, and Jack Herer was leading us away from the feds and legalization and began a whole other fight on the state level. For the past 30 years we have been reinventing the wheel. Why? Today we are closer to legalization than we have ever been before. We are not as close as we were in 1979, because there has been little or no work on the federal level. Yet we are closer. Then Jack Herer gets out of his bed and he makes a dramatic speech against the people who brought us back to the verge of legalization. You're not seeing a pattern here?

<< I can't watch videos >>

i cant either ... i use a modem @ 44 kbps ; )

just a silly beastie boys song that somehow , I felt fit in with this thread/topic
sorry that you cant see it .