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Here's my thoughts (I wouldn't even ask for penny)
CA votes next year straight up on legalizing cannabis state wide and if they vote YES look for a tsunami of legalization spreading across the states that may even reach the federal level. Like Bob Dylan said, Money doesn't talk it screams! And much like Obama's fate, the economy plays big into this. Next year if things are not looking considerably better than they are now, states will jump on this marijuana tax band wagon and I think people will be shocked how fast it happens. If the economy brightens considerably - doubtful - then there will likely be more opposition to legalizing cannabis and we may end up dancing the same old dance.
One thing to consider is that what has really killed cannabis in the past has been the media and our media is even more subverted - or completely subverted - than was the media in the 40's. All any opposition would have to do is out some stories that do not even have to be true and have nothing to do with science but everything to do with manipulation - like, "girl raped by pothead" or "Study finds Pot causes homosexuality" - whatever. Could really sink the legalization movement. Many in the movement mean well but they don't appreciate the political aspect of this fight. They think that by presenting overwhelming scientific and medical evidence, they will win. Overwhelming scientific and medical evidence has already lost this war twice to hyperbole and that is an historical fact.
What I have to ask is if my society which is lost in TV, undereducated and in many cases willfully ignorant, which thinks FOX news is journalism - can we make a rational decision here? I will only say that I would be pleasantly surprised and grateful.
If CA votes no - no tsunami but legalization still won't be dead, it just won't be a juggernaut, and all of the above will shift considerable momentum away from the legalization movement.
CA is the fifth largest economy in the world, truly a "country" unto themselves. That CA vote next year is like D-Day in world world II, absolutely pivital in this war.
I'll be up and running and by then and praying there is no right wing backlash in 2012, like the CA vote, Obama's fate hangs on the economy - if it's up, he could walk into office flashing pictures of himself with little boys - if it's down, Jesus Christ's endorsement won't help him!
CA votes next year straight up on legalizing cannabis state wide and if they vote YES look for a tsunami of legalization spreading across the states that may even reach the federal level. Like Bob Dylan said, Money doesn't talk it screams! And much like Obama's fate, the economy plays big into this. Next year if things are not looking considerably better than they are now, states will jump on this marijuana tax band wagon and I think people will be shocked how fast it happens. If the economy brightens considerably - doubtful - then there will likely be more opposition to legalizing cannabis and we may end up dancing the same old dance.
One thing to consider is that what has really killed cannabis in the past has been the media and our media is even more subverted - or completely subverted - than was the media in the 40's. All any opposition would have to do is out some stories that do not even have to be true and have nothing to do with science but everything to do with manipulation - like, "girl raped by pothead" or "Study finds Pot causes homosexuality" - whatever. Could really sink the legalization movement. Many in the movement mean well but they don't appreciate the political aspect of this fight. They think that by presenting overwhelming scientific and medical evidence, they will win. Overwhelming scientific and medical evidence has already lost this war twice to hyperbole and that is an historical fact.
What I have to ask is if my society which is lost in TV, undereducated and in many cases willfully ignorant, which thinks FOX news is journalism - can we make a rational decision here? I will only say that I would be pleasantly surprised and grateful.
If CA votes no - no tsunami but legalization still won't be dead, it just won't be a juggernaut, and all of the above will shift considerable momentum away from the legalization movement.
CA is the fifth largest economy in the world, truly a "country" unto themselves. That CA vote next year is like D-Day in world world II, absolutely pivital in this war.
I'll be up and running and by then and praying there is no right wing backlash in 2012, like the CA vote, Obama's fate hangs on the economy - if it's up, he could walk into office flashing pictures of himself with little boys - if it's down, Jesus Christ's endorsement won't help him!
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Re: Amerika and an End to the War on Drugs?
Thu, May 7, 2009 - 1:37 PMOK--Everybody who smokes it should move to california--it would be really really nice to be free--Stand Strong--We Shall Overcome-- -
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Thu, May 7, 2009 - 2:22 PMpersonally I think politiics is a bunch of useless bullshit but this one is important - maybe we should move to CA and vote Yes for legalized weed -
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Re: Amerika and an End to the War on Drugs?
Thu, May 7, 2009 - 3:52 PMwell its time to change state and federal laws that make criminals out of law abiding citizens
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Thu, May 7, 2009 - 10:54 PM<I'll be up and running and by then and praying there is no right wing backlash in 2012, like the CA vote, Obama's fate hangs on the economy - if it's up, he could walk into office flashing pictures of himself with little boys - if it's down, Jesus Christ's endorsement won't help him!>
Unfortunately I predict that Obama will take the White House in 2012 and the economy will be worse than ever. Obama has been rewarding the criminals that caused this disaster with billions of dollars, and has not been doing the one thing that needs to be done to repair the economy- create jobs.
Should California legalize grass, it will cause a repressive reaction from the feds like God has never seen. The stock-market based economy depends of the black market for its survival. If wealthy people did not have the black market, money would never trickle down to our level so it can spiral back up and gain interest. Besides, prison is a major source of labor for corporations like VISA. Without pot prisoners VISA would not have a trust worthy work force. -
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Re: Amerika and an End to the War on Drugs?
Fri, May 8, 2009 - 6:56 AMi like your cynical take on it
much as I hate politics, I like Obama a lot - thinking of it as a relative thing but I still say if the economy doesn't turn around, he's toast and if the conservatives move back in then I agree that there would be a backlash against a Yes vote in CA
If the feds challenge CA then I can honestly foresee some kind of armed state vs federal confrontation in the future and I would only point out that Obama has called off the feds on the very important issue of CA instituting more restrictive pollution standards than the feds, which Bush was prosecuting to the max. Obama said that if states can provide better services of any kind to their citizens then that is great and the feds should not stop it but encourage it and possibly immulate it - now that is a 180 from the Bush administration -
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Re: Amerika and an End to the War on Drugs?
Fri, May 8, 2009 - 8:40 PM<i like your cynical take on it >
My cynical take on it is based on 30 years in public relations, sales, and advertising. Watching Obama's campaign was like watching a how to video. The man was packaged and sold like a can of soda. So far his administration has been a rerun of the Clinton fiasco. Clinton continued the dangerous policies of his predecessors, Reagan and Bush the Elder. Bill Clinton is more responsible for the current economic crises than Bush. Bush will be responsible for the disasters to come four to ten years from now. Obama is simply a talking head. He tells us what we want to hear while his cabinet led by Rahm Emmanuel continues the same policies as the Bush Administration and the Clinton Administration before that. Obama only tells us what we want to hear.
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Sat, May 9, 2009 - 12:35 AMyour talking sense--obama is a talking head--perfect description--and we are paying for the clinton years.,just wait untill these current bills are due--think its tough times now.,?and the raids havent stopped-+ -
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Re: Amerika and an End to the War on Drugs?
Wed, May 13, 2009 - 3:57 PMwe have socialism now--fascist are in control and the people are swimming for their lives in the river of denial---two party system run by one bank+++we are led around like the sheep we have become--THE PEACE MOVEMENT HAS BEEN SHREDDED BY THE DRUG WAR--all thats left are the deniers.,swimming in denial--glub--glub- -
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Wed, May 13, 2009 - 4:12 PMluv you guys, but you should get out more. Smoke a bigger bowl?
There are a few "camps" still kickin it and there is hope, where there was none before.
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Re: Amerika and an End to the War on Drugs?
Fri, May 22, 2009 - 6:00 AMIt seems to me that we need an objective definition of crime. Here is the problem and it's bigger than marijuana even. If a government can say that a plant that grows naturally out of the ground is illegal, then the government can make anything illegal - anything at all! It seems to me that any definition of crime would include a victum and where there is no victum, there is no crime.
And the argument that smoking marijuana supports drug violence is circular since if marijuana were not illegal, there would be no illegal drug violence associated with it ~~~Passiton~~~ -
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Re: Amerika and an End to the War on Drugs?
Fri, May 22, 2009 - 11:29 AM<It seems to me that we need an objective definition of crime. Here is the problem and it's bigger than marijuana even. If a government can say that a plant that grows naturally out of the ground is illegal, then the government can make anything illegal - anything at all! It seems to me that any definition of crime would include a victum and where there is no victum, there is no crime.>
I don't know how well you remember the Carter years, but back in 1979, the State of New Jersey updated their definitions of crime and forgot to write in marijuana. Pot became legal for an entire week until the amendment. You make a very good point. -
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Re: Amerika and an End to the War on Drugs?
Mon, May 25, 2009 - 3:59 AMobama is lying--straight up--washington states first cannibus club was raided just weeks ago--we are continually letting other people do all the footwork.,if we want freedom-we have to free ourselves-quit being the victum and get back to living in a spiritual manner+ -
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Mon, May 25, 2009 - 10:21 AM"obama is lying--straight up--washington states first cannibus club was raided just weeks ago"
What makes you think Obama is lying? Because some local shitheads are still busting med clubs?
I'd say you need to get your local cops under control. Obama is not the problem, the current laws are and we need to repeal MJ laws.
Obama has a lot more to do right now than to get you/us legal buds. Go after the laws and the problem goes away.
Stop acting like a Bush-tic, find the problem in your area and work on it. Or don't, but don't attack Obama for things he has nothing to do with. It's YOUR local agents doing things, sue them, find lawyer to help repeal laws. But to just bitch and blame others does nothing.
We need to take a more proactive role in this change.
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Mon, May 25, 2009 - 10:58 AMnot a problem.,im doing what i can to wake people up-and your right about the cops.,but their orders come from above--and if i quit bitching the problem multiplys--this war is on all of us and i have to speak up--and i will say it again untill i run out of breath--FREE YOURSELVES--dont let others save your ass-get on it-master obama doesnt give a shit--hes got bigger cats to play with--get real++
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Re: Amerika and an End to the War on Drugs?
Mon, May 25, 2009 - 11:46 AM<What makes you think Obama is lying? Because some local shitheads are still busting med clubs? >
No, we are saying that Obama is lying because he never tells the truth, and the most proactive thing we can do is to hold that liar to his promises. The clubs were raided for the same reason that Israel attacked Palestine last winter; they knew that the Obama government was behind them despite everything Obama has been telling the public.
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Barack Obama is a Chicago Democrat. He is a part of a political machine that was founded by Al Capone, and is responsible for the Chicago 7 trial, Democrats for Nixon, Democratic support of the Vietnam War, and Bill Clinton. Why anyone would assume that Obama has an honest bone in his body is beyond my understanding. -
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Mon, May 25, 2009 - 11:56 AMThank You very much Bill.,lets tell the truth and shame the devil--THANKS++ -
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Mon, May 25, 2009 - 8:19 PM<Thank You very much Bill.,lets tell the truth and shame the devil--THANKS++>
Remember how marijuana was outlawed in the first place, W.R. Hearst ran a misinformation campaign. We must do more than just tell the truth, we need to support the anti-monopoly laws so that monsters like Hearst and Murdoch never happen again. We also need to return funding to the FCC and to reestablish the fairness doctrine so that the media can return to being a public trust. -
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Mon, May 25, 2009 - 8:25 PMWe also need to return funding to the FCC and to reestablish the fairness doctrine so that the media can return to being a public trust.
the carlyle group has the media in their pocket--along with defense contracts--YOU CANNOT TRUST YOUR TV NEWS ++ -
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Re: Amerika and an End to the War on Drugs?
Mon, May 25, 2009 - 8:48 PM<No, we are saying that Obama is lying because he never tells the truth>
oh brothers, who you been smokin with?
Brotherman is on our side. Its those media types been lyin to ya bout him.
Just wait til hes done shutting down dis faux war (not the real shit we been livin cause of shitman bush)
he has smoked a bit himself and really you can't believe what "they" say about mr. o
be patient, he will come thru
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Mon, May 25, 2009 - 8:54 PMi really do hope and pray your right my friend.,we need to stop fighting and become friends again.,its going to take a tidal wave of love in motion--mayby we can start the wave~~? -
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Mon, May 25, 2009 - 9:10 PM<i really do hope and pray your right my friend.,we need to stop fighting and become friends again.,its going to take a tidal wave of love in motion--mayby we can start the wave~~?>
there ya go brah, if we all keep the heat on,
all dem slackers in DC will have to play ball or we just boot'em and get better ones.
Love IS the answer
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Re: Amerika and an End to the War on Drugs?
Mon, May 25, 2009 - 8:57 PMi agree that Obama is the best we could hope for at this point
but he ain't near enough socialist for me, man - especially when it comes to medicine. I know he means well but he still supports the basic system and our basic system is the real problem - fuck a bunch of banks and capitalism and corporatism.
I'd like to see him at a ceremony outside the Whitehouse where he burns the Whitehouse down - now that's change I could believe in!
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Re: Amerika and an End to the War on Drugs?
Mon, May 25, 2009 - 9:00 PMdon't even ask, baby is goo-goo eyed for Obama!
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Mon, May 25, 2009 - 9:04 PMthat would make a real man out of obama--his-story~~
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Mon, May 25, 2009 - 9:21 PM<our basic system is the real problem - fuck a bunch of banks and capitalism and corporatism. >
with ya there mr. D, but it ain't the system dats fucked up, it's the shitheads runnin it. (& some of the laws they pass!!!!)
Humans start wars, not the "basic system" - we just need better people to step up and run it!
this is the first pres. in years (if ever) that has a clue what really needs doin'
But the media types and the power pukes want him to lose his support so they can get rid of him.
(can you picture (without puking) what a Pres.Cheney would do to us!)
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Mon, May 25, 2009 - 9:43 PMpresident cheney--oh my god--what have you been smoking~~not even in my worst dreams~~ -
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Mon, May 25, 2009 - 9:49 PMSee dats what I mean,
let mr.o work things out or the bush-tics will be back!
Sorry to give you a sour tummie!! ha!
You know..... a large bowl is good for da upset belly!
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Tue, May 26, 2009 - 1:05 AM<(can you picture (without puking) what a Pres.Cheney would do to us!) >
Exactly what Obama is doing to us only with different rhetoric.
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Re: Amerika and an End to the War on Drugs?
Tue, May 26, 2009 - 1:03 AM<but he ain't near enough socialist for me, man - especially when it comes to medicine. I know he means well but he still supports the basic system and our basic system is the real problem - fuck a bunch of banks and capitalism and corporatism.>
I have been a member of the Democratic Socialists of America since I was in college. I think that Obama is just the medicine people need to realize that Capitalism is the greatest danger to human freedom ever created.
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Tue, May 26, 2009 - 1:00 AM<Brotherman is on our side. Its those media types been lyin to ya bout him.>
Obama promised to close down Guantanamo. Last I heard there are still innocent people being held against their wills. Under Obama, the war has not stopped, but has expanded to include Pakistan. The missile strikes against Pakistan are as illegal as Nixon's bombing of Cambodia. Obama has done nothing for the economy except to bail out the criminals who put us in this situation.
I am not listening to the Media. I am observing what Obama is doing-nothing good. He may make nice noises about respecting state marijuana laws, but he never ordered any illegally confiscated money returned. -
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Tue, May 26, 2009 - 6:04 AMmy football coach used to say, "watch his belt buckle - he's gotta go where his hips go" -
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Tue, May 26, 2009 - 6:14 AMlove this~Obama has done nothing for the economy except to bail out the criminals who put us in this situation.
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Re: Amerika and an End to the War on Drugs?
Tue, May 26, 2009 - 8:22 AMwell look at the bright side - we'll have a jobless recovery. Really, it is amazing that we as a people have created this system that keeps generating profits for the wealthy elites and their corporations even while it is completely dying on the vine, rotting, burning - and yet, the system keeps makes profits for exactly who it has been designed to make proftis all along. Actually, the systems is doing really great - kind of reminds of when the Terminator was left with only an arm and hand and even THAT keep trying to kill us.
Capitalist, Freemarketeers - congrats, man! Your Terminator just won't die!! -
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Tue, May 26, 2009 - 7:31 PMmoney for nothing and chicks for free~Exactly what Obama is doing to us only with different rhetoric~~ -
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Tue, May 26, 2009 - 7:34 PMi dont get it~jobless recovery~~i do get the drift though~~banker boys will survive~XXX
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Tue, May 26, 2009 - 9:44 PM<well look at the bright side - we'll have a jobless recovery.>
No we won't. There will not be a jobless recovery until there are jobs that pay a living wage. Minimum wage at MacDonalds does not count as a recovery. There will not be enough of a job recovery until they end outsourcing and bring the production base back to American soil and put Americans to work. Timmy Geithner, who worked for both Bush administrations as well as for Clinton, will hold his breath and turn blue before he lets that happen. So Obama's job recovery will be the same as Clinton's job recovery. They will simply wait until enough people drop off the unemployment insurance statistics and fall into homelessness and say, "see? the unemployment rate is dropping".
To bring this back on topic, the government has been depending on the black market to provide a living wage to people who cannot find work. There are so many middle class people who maintain their life-styles selling pot that there is even a cable TV show about them. Busting them provides cheap and reliable prison labor. Visa does all its data entry through prison labor. It also provides a way to bring money to the lowest level of the money pyramid so that it can spiral up to the top as even more money.
So don't hold your breath waiting for Obama to actually support legalization when his cabinet is filled with the very criminals who created this situation. Geithner is known as the father of outsourcing. -
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Tue, May 26, 2009 - 10:26 PMthanks for clearing that up for me.,(So don't hold your breath waiting for Obama to actually support legalization when his cabinet is filled with the very criminals who created this situation. Geithner is known as the father of outsourcing)-thats where the shit hits the fan.., -
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Thu, May 28, 2009 - 6:51 AMhomegrown jobs--give these hempster hampsters homegrown economy besides risking their lives and freedom for loving a plant... -
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Thu, May 28, 2009 - 9:12 AM<homegrown jobs--give these hempster hampsters homegrown economy besides risking their lives and freedom for loving a plant..>
That will provide for a small fraction of the unemployed and an even smaller fraction of the homeless. Let's be real here. Legalize pot and the first class of people who are going to be negatively hit will be the homeless kids selling eights on the streets. For many this is their only means of providing themselves with food, and they usually don't get more than a few bucks a bag. Homegrown economies didn't work in the 1790s when Tom Jefferson and George Washington enacted some very unpopular taxes in order to pay off the French war debt. Jefferson was astute enough to know that the United States would soon become a foreign colony again if we could not partake in the world economy. A homegrown economy is not going to work today. There is not enough gold in the world to support the economy of the Pacific West. Our economy is based on how much work we do. Considering that a majority of our work is outsourced, you have a good idea of how screwed we are. -
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Thu, May 28, 2009 - 6:19 PMi do have some idea~~they dont outsource my job--lowly orchard worker because even yuppies have to eat.,and beleive it or not-i love doing what im doing-raising organic food for mind and spirit-Eat good Feel- good.,that includes what we imbibe~~~and i have been homeless-down and out--but a blessing from within-saved me from myself~~and i learned a little bit about freedom~~Bless All++ -
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Thu, May 28, 2009 - 6:38 PM<they dont outsource my job--lowly orchard worker because even yuppies have to eat>
Tell me you raise nice tart Macintosh apples. Please tell me you raise them.....
Seriously, my sister has an organic farm in Kentucky. So I know where you are coming from. I just got over a bad case of homelessness and it was nothing but fear and terror for my family and I. We are all too disabled to live on the streets. Thank heavens we did not have to, but it was close. -
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Thu, May 28, 2009 - 7:27 PMright on.,i do raise macintosh--one tree.,and it is a dandy.,should have a good crop on it this year.,and good you did not have to live on the street with your family.,i have helped homeless people situate or at least gain sustanance and a gentle nudge on the path.,since i have had this land.i have a small trailor court.,and land to camp on.,my gardens are my love-plus i have three dog partners and a sweet spot to share the blessing..,i have lived in comune settings and traveled by thumb coast to coast.,came time i needed roots.,i put them here.,in the okanogan valley-north central washington.,this was sacred gathering grounds-thats what okanogan means.,and my little spot on the river still has that sacred power in it-it has done so much to nourish my spirit--and let me GROW--yeah GROW++ -
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Thu, May 28, 2009 - 8:34 PMWhat kind of doggies? We have a Lab mix who is technically my son's service dog but actually Dad's spoiled brat. -
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Thu, May 28, 2009 - 9:43 PMthey are mixed-like the four winds.,and i love them dearly-we make a good team.,thanks for asking.,they keep people honest.,and i can tell a lot by peoples reactions to my dogs--everyone loves them-they are very sociable.,i allways said,behind every mean dog,theres a mean owner.,not allways the case.,but if someone doesnt like my dogs.,i watch them like a hawk~~ -
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Thu, May 28, 2009 - 11:26 PMMutts are the very best. Our spoiled girl is a lab-rottweiler mix.
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She was found as a five week old puppy in People's Park in Berkeley. We brought her home and she became the third kid. She divides people into two classes. Friends and friends she has just met. There is no middle ground with her. -
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Re: Amerika and an End to the War on Drugs?
Sat, May 30, 2009 - 4:29 AMok.,so back to topic.,i felt inspired--4-20.,and it came to me in a rush~~You are the solution.,we start the change in our minds and hearts,and keep in mind we have tremendous power and can do the miraculous if we are in syncro..,our minds tell us we are small.,our hearts tell us we are as big as the sky-which do you want to live by-The Choice Is Yours~ Peace~Passiton++++ -
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Sat, May 30, 2009 - 11:54 AMaltogether now~~All we are saying--i~~s give peace a chance~~All WE are Saying--I~~S Give Peace A Chance~~ -
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Mon, June 1, 2009 - 8:37 PMsomeday day ill find a key i can sing that in--sounded flatter than my head.,Theres big change coming soon folks--and it damn sure isnt going to be on your TVs.,.,keep your psychic antanaes up~~were allmost there,and its up to each of us to do whats right--take back our responsibility and set ourselves free~~ITS ON THE WAY -
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Tue, June 2, 2009 - 7:38 AMit's here now!
no shit wait
there it goes ...
what the fuck
was that it?
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Re: Amerika and an End to the War on Drugs?
Tue, June 2, 2009 - 9:16 AMIt's the same thing as happened during the Depression of 1929. Nothing was done about it until 1933. During the interim, Herbert Hoover gave away the store just as Obama is doing,. -
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Tue, June 2, 2009 - 3:49 PMit does get old,and its about to go fast.,bleep-beep--there it goes--hey wait a minute.,take me two.,missed that one but there will be another-and another-Same comercial--difrent sponsors--buy-this brain fuck cereal.,with aluminum and extra flouride for strong bones+teeth -
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Wed, June 3, 2009 - 7:08 AMone thing about war~~job opportunities--get to go to strange lands and kill people--or stay home and be a prison gaurd-- -
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Wed, June 3, 2009 - 9:46 AMI notice you guys hanging out in here, where do you want the issue to head?
Seems like we all agree, wasting one $ on wars (unless very very real threat is detected) is not good.
to the Drug War..............
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Wed, June 3, 2009 - 9:53 AMproblem solved, then - shit -
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Wed, June 3, 2009 - 10:02 AMSeems simple like that huh?
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Wed, June 3, 2009 - 12:48 PM<Seems simple like that huh? >
If only it were that easy
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Wed, June 3, 2009 - 1:19 PMnothing to do but vote, really
but i know this - money talks and bullshit walks! And money is started to scream right now, especially in California!
Right here, money money money for the takin' - just legalize Marijuana!
Wants Schools - legalize marijuana!
Want new police cruisers - legalize marijuana!
A new wing for your local hospital - legalize marijuana!
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Wed, June 3, 2009 - 1:21 PMNow I believe this about my fellow humanity - when money screams out loud - "take me, I'm yours!" we mostly tend to take it!
god i hope i'm not disapointed again
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Wed, June 3, 2009 - 1:38 PM<where do we start--its time-repeal now-- >
Where we start is by first realizing where the enemy actually is, and they are not our neighbors. They are not those pathetic "neighborhood activists" in Eagle Rock who are freaking out over the number of dispensaries in Los Angeles. If those Einsteins took a few minutes to reason it out, there are more people who benefit from medicinal marijuana than they originally thought. Otherwise how could any city support over 500 dispensaries. The enemy are those who make money from the war on drugs, and they are not going to give up those profits easily.
Education may be the answer but it is not an easy answer when our opponents have a lot more money than we do and can afford to pour a few tens of millions of dollars into public relations and advertising. Those PR and advertising firms employ really sharp psychologist who have the morals of marmoset monkeys and no qualms about twisting facts to appeal to the inner fears of Mr. and Mrs. America. They have no problem in creating fears and adding to fears. Unfortunately they are very good at what they do.
We also have to factor in the American conformity factor that is reinforced through our public school experience. No member of a community wants to be an outsider by apposing a community leader, no matter how stupid he is being.
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